tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9479398.post3438153523801799807..comments2024-03-28T11:33:16.271-05:00Comments on Adventus: I don't know why she couldn't swallow a fly....Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9479398.post-16222167686828112732012-10-10T15:08:28.457-05:002012-10-10T15:08:28.457-05:00Alberich--
I agree with you on all points. From ...Alberich--<br /><br />I agree with you on all points. From what little evidence I can review (the trial court granted summary judgment, which means it took all evidence presented in the light most favorable to the student, and still ruled for the university), she wasn't getting into UT, period. From her interview on NPR, she seems to think she deserved entry as a legacy; but UT has never had a legacy program, and isn't starting one now.<br /><br />She went to LSU, which my daughter tells me is a party school. I'll take her word for it, but the difference between them is so stark I still can't imagine what damage Ms. Fisher has suffered.<br /><br />As for the racism, it is so obviously prevalent and so obviously a factor that deciding it isn't anymore can only be on the basis of "We have a black president, so racism is dead!" Which I swear I heard some GOP candidate say in the past two days, but I can't find the news story.....<br /><br />I want to hear the oral arguments on this, as it will indicate whether the Supremes took this case to toss it out without approving of the 5th Cir. opinion (on the grounds there is no injury here, no justiciable issue, as the lawyers say), or that they are only interested in finding the flimsiest of excuses to toss affirmative action in the garbage, and will violate the most basic tenet of judicial review to do so (i.e., never act on a claim that doesn't present a justiciable issue).Rmjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06811456254443706479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9479398.post-4839093667697721912012-10-10T14:43:32.406-05:002012-10-10T14:43:32.406-05:00I guess the take home of my drifting off topic is ...I guess the take home of my drifting off topic is that no matter what the courts rule, race will always be an issue ... no matter how colorblind we think we are, we are not. So we might as well take race into account in a positive way rather than in a way that just re-enforces racism.<br /><br />BTW -- I still can't get over the complaints about Obama "just being an affirmative-action case". Even if you don't happen to think that Obama is the best president ever, if he's what race-based affirmative action gives us (as opposed to some of the other presidents and presidential candidates we've had recently), affirmative action is working darned well, if you ask me.<br />alberichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03852752646926946626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9479398.post-64577776612020293222012-10-10T14:40:43.905-05:002012-10-10T14:40:43.905-05:00How far away is Fisher from the line drawn through...How far away is Fisher from the line drawn through the matrix? If she is close to the line, should could make the case that if race were not considered in the PAI score than fewer people would have higher AI/PAI combinations than she, so the school could have drawn the line further down in the matrix allowing her to get in.<br /><br />But it sounds to me like she was not so close to the line, so her argument is pretty much the sort of whining that in other contexts her supporters would be the first dismiss.<br /><br />Anyway, I am not sure how I feel about race-based considerations (being the son of a white woman brought up in the working class who went to a "bad school" and seeing how that put her at a disadvantage -- although her religion, in spite of the history of persecution against us, actually worked in her favor as it allowed her to meet my dad whose family had some money -- I'd say we really should be taking class more into account than anything). But I do say Chris Rock has a point. How many whites would actually, seriously consider being black?<br /><br />For that matter, even in being a minority that can give you an advantage (e.g. being Jewish) in some cases and that you CAN join -- how many non-Jews would seriously consider converting?<br /><br />Of course, race does remain a problem for our society. If we truly were a post-racial society, how come my daughter would think to ask (when hearing a news story about a crime), "is he [the alleged criminal] African-American?"? How come my daughter thinks that Barak Obama must be Martin Luther King's son? And how come my daughter declared herself to be "African-American" and, when my wife pointed out that she (my daughter) is half-white (biological mother is white -- Italian and German ancestry, biological father Afro-Hispanic; I'm white and my wife is black), my daughter could only manage to acknowledge that she is "mainly African-American and a little white"? The one drop rule still lives and even kids growing up in mixed-race families in multi-cultural Queens still manage to get all sorts of what should be long dead views about race in their heads.alberichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03852752646926946626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9479398.post-60105761417307307392012-10-10T14:16:28.926-05:002012-10-10T14:16:28.926-05:00Wait, Fisher is a WOMAN? Whatever will Scalia do? ...Wait, Fisher is a WOMAN? Whatever will Scalia do? She's white, which is good; there weren't any non-white people attending universities when the founders wrote the Constitution, so clearly the Constitution has nothing to say about allowing non-whites to attend universities. But women didn't attend universities, either! How can the Constitution say anything about the right of a woman, even a white woman, to be admitted to a university? I'm sure that Scalia will take a principled stand against Ms. Fisher.Sherrinoreply@blogger.com