tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9479398.post8045740129752685465..comments2024-03-28T11:33:16.271-05:00Comments on Adventus: The Wild GeeseUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9479398.post-31808041848820127192013-10-03T04:12:09.271-05:002013-10-03T04:12:09.271-05:00I don't know if so much "brusque", a...I don't know if so much "brusque", as "read into my brief comment all kinds of things that weren't there".<br /><br />Yes, all theology IS impossible to know . . . which is why I believe, in weighting these two very different issues, we rely on 1 John 4:20 [para.] "If you do not love your [sister!], whom you can see, how do you expect to love God, whom you cannot!?"<br /><br />When it came to the ordination of women (in that same plane conversation where he said of gays "Who am I to judge?"), Pope Francis just flat-out Blew It Off: [para.] "That's settled, Next!"<br /><br />The UNsettling of that issue in Rome (Eastern Orthodoxy . . . fewer and fewer of my recalcitrant fellow Anglicans ;-/) is a HECK of a lot more important *to me*, than is Transubstantiation (which I don't have a problem with---nor Consubstantiation, nor my own personal preference, the deliciously vague "Real Presence". Per Good Queen Bess<br /><br /><i>Christ was the word that spake it. <br />He took the bread and break it; <br />And what his words did make it <br />That I believe and take it. </i><br /><br />FTW!)JCFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14516376500318551838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9479398.post-8217134187542843432013-10-02T06:39:55.964-05:002013-10-02T06:39:55.964-05:00Sorry, JCF; it's morning, and I'm feeling ...Sorry, JCF; it's morning, and I'm feeling waspish.<br /><br />I know better than to post the first draft of my thoughts....<br /><br />My apologies for being brusque.Rmjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06811456254443706479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9479398.post-87506490462874607892013-10-02T06:38:12.819-05:002013-10-02T06:38:12.819-05:00Transubstantiation has been a division between Rom...Transubstantiation has been a division between Rome and the Protestants for nearly 500 years. It was even a split (on the question of, if not quite in these terms, homoousias v. homoiousias) between Lutherans and Reformed. Only the German Evangelical church in the 19th century began to heal that one, with the merger of Lutheran and Reformed traditions into one church.<br /><br />The issue is now one upon which Rome and the Protestants (most of them, the ones who don't still call the Roman church the "whore of Babylon") have agreed to disagree.<br /><br />And even the Anglican communion doesn't agree on the ordination of women. Should I break faith with them, too?<br /><br />I prefer to agree to disagree, and find common ground where it exists; even with the members of my own denomination who think me (as some of my parish members did) too "Roman."<br /><br />And all points of theology are "fine points" which it can be said are ultimately "impossible to know." Take the example of the congregation I mentioned: was it the will of God that the money for new carpet be spent on mission? Or on new carpet?<br /><br />Not all theological conundrums are delightful intellectual puzzles, or clear-cut issues with only one side to them.Rmjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06811456254443706479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9479398.post-48466945674518844152013-10-02T01:57:49.301-05:002013-10-02T01:57:49.301-05:00"transubstantiation or the ordination of wome..."transubstantiation or the ordination of women"<br /><br />I'm kind of disturbed you rate these two of similar weight. One is an (impossible-to-know) fine point of theology, the other, the (sinful-to-ignore) equal dignity&call of God's Image Made Female.JCFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14516376500318551838noreply@blogger.com