Looking For The Corner In A Dark Round Room

Trump: People were taken out of the spa, hired by Epstein… I told him we don’t want you taking our people, whether it’s spa or not spa. He did it again, I said out of here.

Reporter: Was one of the stolen people Virginia Giuffre?

Trump: I think so. He stole her. pic.twitter.com/sLoDdKNasn

— Acyn (@Acyn) July 29, 2025

Wikipedia:

In mid-2000, Giuffre met Ghislaine Maxwell when working as a spa attendant at Donald Trump's private Mar-a-Lago club while reading a book about massage therapy. Maxwell, a British socialite and daughter of the late media tycoon Robert Maxwell, approached Giuffre, noted the book that she was reading, inquired about her interest in massage, and offered her a potential job working for Epstein as a traveling masseuse with the assurance that no experience was necessary. When Giuffre arrived at Epstein's Palm Beach home, she says he was naked lying down and Maxwell told her how to massage him. "They seemed like nice people so I trusted them, and I told them I'd had a really hard time in my life up until then—I'd been a runaway, I'd been sexually abused, physically abused. ... That was the worst thing I could have told them because now they knew how vulnerable I was", Giuffre stated. Giuffre stated that after Maxwell introduced her to Jeffrey Epstein, the two quickly began grooming her to provide sexual services under the guise that she was to be trained as a professional massage therapist.

Virginia Griffey, nee Roberts, was born on August 9, 1983, so “mid-2000” would place her at 16 or barely 17.  And she wasn’t Giuffre until 2002, so Trump wouldn’t have known her by that name.

I’d be surprised if Trump knew her at all, or now. He’s just groping in the dark, responding to leading questions. And tying himself to Maxwell, who obviously frequented MAL.

And honestly, “stealing” a 16 year old spa attendant? Even Giuffre admitted she was nothing special and ripe for Epstein’s exploitation. It’s not so much Epstein sought out those people, as vulnerable people would respond and acquiesce. Which makes it more monstrous, actually; and more reason why we should be focused on the victims, rather than on Trump.

ActBlue just sent me a text message, proclaiming that “TRUMP IS LOUDER THAN EVER!” Maybe we should stop shouting, and start thinking about the ordinary people the elephants want to trample.

Did Trump consider his 16 year old spa attendant in 2000 had been “stolen”? Did he even know her name? Or did they just hire another part-time minimum wage earner, and move on? Most likely he never knew about the employment issue.

He’s a stone cold liar who probably believes his own lies. He’s no more a reliable witness than Ghislaine Maxwell is. Funny how she doesn’t want to help Trump out

Notice Trump doesn’t peg these events to a year. The Washington Post reported Trump and Epstein parted ways over a real estate deal where Trump outbid Epstein. That was in 2004. Now Trump wants to attach it to Epstein trolling for girls, in 2000. Like I said, he’s a stone cold liar. And he’s groping in the dark, circling a round room, trying to find the corner he’s been told to sit in.

Really wondering how this all plays out.  And how much more damage we’ll do to the victims.