(From earlier in the day; but it's nice to have an historical record). Yes, it is a bad argument, for many reasons. However, as a predicate for this, it's not bad:Judge now asking what authority the Plaintiffs had that the judge could grant any of that relief.
— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) July 12, 2021
Plaintiffs' lawyers' lawyer: The constitution and Bush v. Gore. (This is a bad argument)
That's the dirty little problem with sanctions. Think of it as the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard. Without the ability to move the law, no Brown v. Board; no repeal of Dred Scott; no Gideon or Miranda; you get the idea. But can you always blow that smokescreen?This, btw, is an excellent argument in opposition to a sanctions motion: no, we don't have anything exactly on point, but we had a basis for a good faith belief we could do this
— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) July 12, 2021
In a word: no.State's lawyer is responding directly to that: They ignored the procedures for challenging an election and instead went for a collateral attack. Were using the court to message politically
— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) July 12, 2021
Yeah, the courts aren't as dumb as the legal procedure and method of reasoning might make them seem. Besides, the lawyers in trouble want to have it both ways:"We want to bring post-election process claims based on things we could have challenged pre-election, and fraud claims separate from the p
ost-election challenge process" is frivolous on its face— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) July 12, 2021That's absolutely false, btw. Procedure claims are ripe *only* before an election.
— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) July 12, 2021
The issue in a sanctions hearing really does come down to this:That's absolutely false, btw. Procedure claims are ripe *only* before an election.
— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) July 12, 2021
This is not how you argue against sanctions for you clients who are lawyers:And the procedure claims were stale by the time they filed.
— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) July 12, 2021
"We had shorter time and did better work. What they filed was an embarrassment to the legal profession"
YEP
Judge: So why didn't they dismiss it as moot?
— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) July 12, 2021
Campbell: Because they are lawyers, they have to zealously advocate. And a Wisconsin judge said it's 12/14. So 12/14 was the deadline date. Then on 12/14, multiple electors voted, including our plaintiffs
And first rule of holes:Judge: Defense counsel?
— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) July 12, 2021
Meingast: I don't even know what to say. They TOLD SCOTUS that this would be moot as of 12/14. The fact that some of these plaintiffs mock-voted outside the capital doesn't change that, nothing this court could do.
I've been in hearings where I knew I was losing the argument. I never resorted to insulting the judge.Judge: Defense counsel?
— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) July 12, 2021
Meingast: I don't even know what to say. They TOLD SCOTUS that this would be moot as of 12/14. The fact that some of these plaintiffs mock-voted outside the capital doesn't change that, nothing this court could do.
I can't follow the thread of the argument from this (and nothing I've excluded is explanatory of how they got to this point), but I include to indicate what must be the absolute madness of the arguments for the lawyers. This isn't even coherent anymore. Then again I think Woods and Powell both need to be disbarred and then remanded for psychiatric counseling, and allowed nothing sharper than a rubber ball. Seriously.Fink: We moved to dismiss not because we wanted fees, but because the Republic was under attack. After we filed that motion and they saw all the grounds, they didn't dismiss. And they didn't dismiss after January 6 when all the electors were counted.
— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) July 12, 2021
Well, that helps. Totally incoherent was their argument all along.And on Feb 4, Powell on Telegram says "we haven't lost every case, our Michigan case is still scheduled for conference"
— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) July 12, 2021
Holy shit
🎶"Turn out the liiiights, the party's over!"🎶Judge: Now I'm going to ask questions in order to determine whether I should sanction you under Rule 11 or 1927
— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) July 12, 2021
Want to know about your investigation and litigation conduct. pic.twitter.com/uTfXAKOeS2
Like I sang:available as trial counsel on anything Sid needed me for. I didn't apply for Pro Hac.
— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) July 12, 2021
Judge: You gave your permission
Wood: I didn't know it would be included, I told her I'd help her at need.
Judge: Did you read it before it was filed?
Wood: No. Found out after
A Pro-Tip: NEVER piss off the judge's court reporter.In Delaware, Mr. Wood EXPLICITLY represented to the Delaware court that he was involved in the case in Michigan. He says he's involved when it benefits him.
— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) July 12, 2021
We gave them Rule 11 notice. He didn't withdraw
And to return to the issues of any sanction hearing, these things do not constitute "reasonable arguments for extending the law:"The Court reporter is now yelling at counsel to stop interrupting.
— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) July 12, 2021
Now, fun with evidence!He thinks if you go to FL for the winter you're a fraudulent voter. That's not a thing.
— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) July 12, 2021
"I'm not a statistician but I play one in court. I know how to look at two numbers and see if they match." He's got statistics that are internally inconsistent
Judge: This stuff was crazy. Attempted correction was not good enough. Should an attorney be sanctioned for the failure to sufficiently correct it
— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) July 12, 2021
Campbell: Only if the attorney has actual knowledge. No evidence the lawyers had the knowledge. Nobody had proof it was in error
Haller tries to interrupt and gets bounced.
— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) July 12, 2021
Fink: These lies were put out into the world, adopted and believed so that in the infamous 1/2 phone conversation with Raffensperger, Trump explicitly referenced that 139% voting statistic. That's the consequences.
That went well.Fink: I'm not citing an internet source. I said 30 seconds on the internet gets you to the public record, which is not hearsay. It was always available
— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) July 12, 2021
Judge: And I'll point out it was available on November 19 pic.twitter.com/RqS3STJizV
Klown: You're hearing a lot of factual representations, please check the record carefully
— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) July 12, 2021
Judge: I don't need that caution from YOU pic.twitter.com/DqBQhKObyT
If someone doesn't get sanctioned, the law is an ass. Klown. I think fate wants this made into a movie.
ReplyDeleteApparently at the end Powell made a stunning refusal to acknowledge reality, comparing her case(s) to Brown v. Board (you might as well call yourself Jesus Christ on the cross) and swearing she'd do it all again if she could.
ReplyDeleteIf the State Bar of Texas doesn't start disbarment proceedings after this, the Bar beclowns itself. Seriously. The State Bar endorses this behavior if they don't condemn it in the strongest possible terms.