Be careful what you wish for.On the bright side, we're 1:36 into this hearing and no one has talked about FBI's purported crackdown on extremist Catholics.
— emptywheel (@emptywheel) March 1, 2023
Shit.
— emptywheel (@emptywheel) March 1, 2023
I should have bet on Josh Hawley.@hugolowell
LOLOL.
— emptywheel (@emptywheel) March 1, 2023
Hawley: You are in Charge. They followed Your guidelines.
Garland: The facts are not as you describe.
First: does "extremist Catholics" mean "ultramontane Catholics"? Second: does the Senator imagine the Latin Mass is a) widely practiced after Vatican II? and b) closed to people who can't produce the correct Catholic ID? Because unless things have changed radically (and they may have, but not in that direction), the only Latin Mass I know of in Missouri was conducted in St. Louis by a small congregation with either special dispensation or in defiance of the Bishop of Rome.Hawley: Are you cultivating sources inside Latin Masses. I'll tell you how it happened, memo cites SPLC. Is this how they do their intelligence work, they look at left wing advocacy groups.
— emptywheel (@emptywheel) March 1, 2023
According to the leaked FBI memo, “radical-traditional” Catholics who are interested in the Traditional Latin Mass are likely to have ties to “the far-right white nationalist movement.”
Which, to be honest, makes sense to me. I attended that Latin Mass decades ago, but the crowd was extremely white and extremely conservative in appearance, right down to a family near us in a pew who fit the stereotype of a "traditional Catholic family" so tightly it was a visual cliche. Reading down the row left to right: Dad, Mom, and several children in declining heights/ages, the woman all wearing a head covering reminiscent of Sunday dress in the 1950's (this was the mid '90's), and giving off a very bad vibe toward my friend, who although female was bare headed. I don't think they'd have liked it that she wasn't my wife, either (just on the issue of being in their Mass with a woman not my wife, I mean). Not a terribly hospitable congregation, all in all.
I know nothing about this matter, except that when Fox News describes it in terms of "purported," you get the feeling there's less here than meets the eye, and the provenance of the memo itself is subject to question:
Former FBI special agent and federal whistleblower Kyle Seraphin reportedly obtained a leaked FBI document that outlines a plan to spy on a segment of one of America’s biggest religious denominations.
"The FBI’s Richmond Division would like to protect Virginians from the threat of ‘white supremacy,’ which it believes has found a home within Catholics who prefer the Latin Mass," Seraphin reported for Uncover DC. "An intelligence analyst within the Richmond Field Office of the FBI released in a new finished intelligence product dated January 23, 2023, on Racially or Ethnically Motivated Violent Extremists (RMVE) and their interests in ‘Radical-Traditionalist Catholics’ or RTCs."
He added that the document "assesses with ‘high confidence’ the FBI can mitigate the threat of Radical-Traditionalist Catholics by recruiting sources within the Catholic Church."
I don't doubt the FBI would conduct such an investigation, or even think it had grounds to. Given the investigations revealed by the Church Committee, I don't put anything past the FBI, and don't think all of it is justified. I do think the "sources" they are interested in (if at all) are not just pew sitters during the Mass.
It's also, as used by Sen. Hawley here, just an excuse to sling poo and get on TeeVee tonight (or on Twitter, which would be better):
I'm going to do Hannity producers a solid and pull this clip for them pic.twitter.com/QXLx1zqBHj
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 1, 2023
Here's where I remember Senators have been engaging in performative outrage since cameras came into Senate hearings. That's been quite a long time, now.
And this is why I'm not entirely on-side that the FBI memo says what its critics wanted it to say:
here's Merrick Garland debunking the GOP's talking point about the FBI being sicced on parents pic.twitter.com/Xu5HhmiUkO
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 1, 2023
Because most of this is, as the kids say now, performative:
Now Ted Cruz is VERY ANGRY that Merrick Garland is protecting the Supreme Court Justices.
— emptywheel (@emptywheel) March 1, 2023
Durbin: I'm going to allow the witness to respond.
— emptywheel (@emptywheel) March 1, 2023
Ted Cruz repeats what he thinks the question was 10 more times.
Garland, answers the question that was actually asked.
Yeah, you get the idea.BREAKING: @senjohnkennedy is OUTRAGED that the FBI has a database that allows them to track things.
— emptywheel (@emptywheel) March 1, 2023
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